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		<title>By: sy levine</title>
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		<dc:creator>sy levine</dc:creator>
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		<description>They may cry about sensors or other problems but the arlines and pilot associations fear of litgation far out ways passenger safety or even the flight crew safety.  Their lobby organizations with their large political contributions have effectively blocked the real-time use of the flight data.  The litigation fear has effectively killed thousands of innocent passengers.  The public doesn&#039;t have the lobby organizations to stop this industrial-government money driven partnership and thus they have born the brunt of these unnecessary fatal crashes.  The aviation industry, through their effective lobby organizations, have large influence on who is selected to head the government monitoring agencies (i.e.: FAA, NTSB, etc.).  Thus passenger safety is lower on the list of priorities.

The public doesn&#039;t have effective lobby organizations and thus they are</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They may cry about sensors or other problems but the arlines and pilot associations fear of litgation far out ways passenger safety or even the flight crew safety.  Their lobby organizations with their large political contributions have effectively blocked the real-time use of the flight data.  The litigation fear has effectively killed thousands of innocent passengers.  The public doesn&#8217;t have the lobby organizations to stop this industrial-government money driven partnership and thus they have born the brunt of these unnecessary fatal crashes.  The aviation industry, through their effective lobby organizations, have large influence on who is selected to head the government monitoring agencies (i.e.: FAA, NTSB, etc.).  Thus passenger safety is lower on the list of priorities.</p>
<p>The public doesn&#8217;t have effective lobby organizations and thus they are</p>
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		<title>By: mgiles</title>
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		<description>Much of sense in what you say Sy. Why is it the industry is so slow to move on this.
Cheers
Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much of sense in what you say Sy. Why is it the industry is so slow to move on this.<br />
Cheers<br />
Michael</p>
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		<title>By: sy levine</title>
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		<dc:creator>sy levine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Air France Flight 447 Typified Why The Black Box Data Should Be Telemetered To The Ground

  For the last ten years there hasn’t been a technical reason why the digital flight recorder data isn&#039;t securely sent in real-time to the ground for storage (see the BBC/Equinox video “The BOX”, 4/2000, A look at the shortcomings found in black box flight recorders).  During this ten year interval both the US and Europe have had the capability of implementing remote aircraft flight recording if only they had the will to do so. Using a remote aircraft flight recorder, within a couple of seconds, you have the planes position/location, its attitude, velocity, etc. safely stored on the ground and used for flight safety, aviation security and cost reduction.  The data used in real-time could have also prevented 9/11 (see  http://www.safelander.com). 

   On June 4, 2009 the Los Angeles Times put following information that I wrote into their LETTERS section: “There is no technical reason why digital flight recorder data are not sent in real-time to the ground. We have the technology to do this. Then, within a couple of seconds, we would have a plane’s position, altitude and velocity safely stored on the ground. This information could be used for flight safety, aviation security and cost reduction. We don’t know what went wrong on Air France Flight 447, but we would sure know where the plane went down, why it went down and possibly could have saved lives.”  Getting to the crash site early may save lives, getting the DFDR can prevent recurring fatal crashes.  It’s not just position that’s needed, it’s all of the data sent to the recorder that is critical to ascertaining the root cause of a crash and should be available to prevent some of the crashes from occurring.

   The real-time use of the data recorders will save a substantial amount of lives, make our country safer and reduce the cost of flying.  Telemetering the already digitized flight data to the ground in real-time would assure that we have the data. In some crashes the flight data isn&#039;t recovered (e.g. 9/11, et al) or has errors in it since no one is looking at it, or using it in real-time to find malfunctions. Yet, this valuable digital flight recorder data (DFDR) data has been essentially left to the autopsy mode for post mortem simulations and not utilized proactively in real-time to save lives on cargo and carrier aircraft.  We got the astronauts back from the moon by ground personnel monitoring the data in real-time. It was the ground personnel that found the problem and relayed back to the capsule the safe solution that saved the astronauts lives.  It is now time to utilize this proven methodology for the good of the public.

   A year prior to 9/11 at the International Aviation Safety Association meeting in New York, methods for preventing crashes like golfer Payne Stewart’s decompression crash were proposed.  None of these methods were implemented by the aviation industry and we got 9/11 (hijacking is about ten percent of aviation fatalities) and the 2005, 100 fatality, Helios decompression crash.  When a plane deviates from its approved flight plan, we now have the ability to securely take remote control of it and land it safely at a designated airfield.  We presently have remote pilot vehicles (RPVs) flying over Afghanistan that are controlled/piloted from continental United States (CONUS).  Currently we are utilizing secure high bandwidth communication networks (for our RPVs, submarines, AWACS planes, etc.) and there isn&#039;t a logical reason for not making that technology available for cargo and carrier aircraft.  The cost of 9/11 alone is ten times the cost of putting in a safe system and yet nothing has intentionally been done.  

   When a plane decompresses there is a good possibility that if we remotely bring it down in altitude to a point where there is sufficient oxygen and fly it remotely for 15 minutes, the pilot and passengers may regain consciousness.  At that time the control of the aircraft could be returned to the pilot or remotely landing it to save the lives of the people who are onboard.  This would have saved the lives of those aboard Helios.

  Billions of dollars are wasted on unnecessary airport runway expansion and insufficient data programs to reduce fatal ground incursions.  The lack of data has caused excessive verbal communication between the pilots and the controllers that is prone to errors. These ground incursions wouldn’t even occur if the flight data was shared so pilots and air traffic control had better visibility.  But because the digital data isn’t shared automatically the pilot sees only a fraction of the information necessary to prevent a crash and the same holds true for the air traffic controllers (ATCs).  Crashes such as Tenerife (583 fatalities), Comair (49 fatalities), etc. are directly caused by the lack of visibility due to not sharing the DFDR, ATC and airport runway data in real-time.  Too many crashes are listed as pilot error when they are a direct result of a lack of visibility brought on by not sharing the digital flight data/Black Box in real-time to provide the necessary situation awareness. Many of the fatal in-air crashes fall into the same category.  For example there was a crash where a plane ran out of fuel over JFK. The controller thought the pilot had more fuel left and the pilot who said his fuel was low didn’t use the correct emergency verbiage. Since the fuel supply is another black box input there is no reason why a red light, similar to the one on everyone’s car, doesn’t light up on the ATC display. The red low fuel light would reduce the controller’s work load and increase his situation awareness so that the people aboard a flight similar to the one that crashed would now live. Using the Black Box data decreases the work load of the pilot the air traffic controller as well as increases their situation awareness. By the lack of sharing the already digitized data in real-time we have egregiously curtailed the use of automation and expert systems technology for the prevention of crashes, increased the cost of flying and jeopardized our national security. The real-time use and sharing of the DFDR data to prevent crashes is more important then its present post mortem autopsy mode of operation.

    The already digitized data used in real-time allows the use of automated expert systems to check many of an aircraft’s sensors prior to, and during, a flight to assure that everything is functioning correctly without having a person in the loop.  When a malfunction is detected it can automatically inform the pilot and ATC as to the best way to work a round a malfunction.  Using cross checks and correlation most of the sensors can be checked and work a round’s provided to the flight deck crew for safe transportation.  It will also automatically notify the ground operational center of expected malfunctions and the safest work a round’s using a history file that should be followed. By so doing, the pilot’s work load will be reduced and his performance enhanced.

   While pinpointing specific causes of a crash via the autopsy mode has merit it doesn’t address the broad generic systemic cause of most crashes namely not sharing the already digitized Black Box data in real-time for crash prevention.  Piloting errors and mechanical failures will always occur but that is not a sufficient reason for the passengers to die. The fundamental reason for too many of the crashes is because the Black Box data has been denied from being utilized in real-time by the aviation industry out of fear for liability.  We have operated commercial aviation in a dark age’s methodology.  The aviation industry even fought against Black Boxes for many years.  The Black Box technology came out of Australia. It was years and many fatal crashes later when it was embraced by the US and European aviation industry.  Even when the US aviation industry embraced Black Box technology they severely limited the number of points that were allowed to be monitored.  The net result we had recurring crashes such as the horrific USAIR, Flight 427, Aliquippa PA crash, in which my friend David Garber died, that was eventually solved by using British QAR (Quick Access Recorder) data.  QARs weren’t utilized by US carrier aircraft.  We must eliminate this liability fear of the airlines and pilots associations and enter into a new age of aviation enlightenment by utilizing the black box data in real-time to prevent crashes.  The Black Box data should not be suppressed under the cover of industry private and parsed out begrudgingly.  The Black Box data belongs to the public since it is necessary for their safety. 

   The Air France flight 447 crash is just the latest example of horrific crashes that possibly could have been prevented or saved lives. Using the Black Box data safely stored on the ground we surely would be able to minimize the anguish of the passenger’s families and recurring crashes. Ground storage eliminates the cost, time and risks associated with recorder recovery.   The flight data used in real-time: reduces the cost of flying; prevents recurring fatal crashes; prevents a host of fatal crashes that aren’t directly related to Air France Flight 447, and keeps nations safe and secure.  For the good of nation and its citizens, not only the flying public, we must utilize the Black Box data in real time.

Sy Levine

sylevine1@sbcglobal.net

(310) 559-2965

levines@wlac.edu
http://www.safelander.com
Remote Aircraft Flight Recorder and Advisory System (RAFT) patent #5,890,079, 3/30/1999</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Air France Flight 447 Typified Why The Black Box Data Should Be Telemetered To The Ground</p>
<p>  For the last ten years there hasn’t been a technical reason why the digital flight recorder data isn&#8217;t securely sent in real-time to the ground for storage (see the BBC/Equinox video “The BOX”, 4/2000, A look at the shortcomings found in black box flight recorders).  During this ten year interval both the US and Europe have had the capability of implementing remote aircraft flight recording if only they had the will to do so. Using a remote aircraft flight recorder, within a couple of seconds, you have the planes position/location, its attitude, velocity, etc. safely stored on the ground and used for flight safety, aviation security and cost reduction.  The data used in real-time could have also prevented 9/11 (see  <a href="http://www.safelander.com)" rel="nofollow">http://www.safelander.com)</a>. </p>
<p>   On June 4, 2009 the Los Angeles Times put following information that I wrote into their LETTERS section: “There is no technical reason why digital flight recorder data are not sent in real-time to the ground. We have the technology to do this. Then, within a couple of seconds, we would have a plane’s position, altitude and velocity safely stored on the ground. This information could be used for flight safety, aviation security and cost reduction. We don’t know what went wrong on Air France Flight 447, but we would sure know where the plane went down, why it went down and possibly could have saved lives.”  Getting to the crash site early may save lives, getting the DFDR can prevent recurring fatal crashes.  It’s not just position that’s needed, it’s all of the data sent to the recorder that is critical to ascertaining the root cause of a crash and should be available to prevent some of the crashes from occurring.</p>
<p>   The real-time use of the data recorders will save a substantial amount of lives, make our country safer and reduce the cost of flying.  Telemetering the already digitized flight data to the ground in real-time would assure that we have the data. In some crashes the flight data isn&#8217;t recovered (e.g. 9/11, et al) or has errors in it since no one is looking at it, or using it in real-time to find malfunctions. Yet, this valuable digital flight recorder data (DFDR) data has been essentially left to the autopsy mode for post mortem simulations and not utilized proactively in real-time to save lives on cargo and carrier aircraft.  We got the astronauts back from the moon by ground personnel monitoring the data in real-time. It was the ground personnel that found the problem and relayed back to the capsule the safe solution that saved the astronauts lives.  It is now time to utilize this proven methodology for the good of the public.</p>
<p>   A year prior to 9/11 at the International Aviation Safety Association meeting in New York, methods for preventing crashes like golfer Payne Stewart’s decompression crash were proposed.  None of these methods were implemented by the aviation industry and we got 9/11 (hijacking is about ten percent of aviation fatalities) and the 2005, 100 fatality, Helios decompression crash.  When a plane deviates from its approved flight plan, we now have the ability to securely take remote control of it and land it safely at a designated airfield.  We presently have remote pilot vehicles (RPVs) flying over Afghanistan that are controlled/piloted from continental United States (CONUS).  Currently we are utilizing secure high bandwidth communication networks (for our RPVs, submarines, AWACS planes, etc.) and there isn&#8217;t a logical reason for not making that technology available for cargo and carrier aircraft.  The cost of 9/11 alone is ten times the cost of putting in a safe system and yet nothing has intentionally been done.  </p>
<p>   When a plane decompresses there is a good possibility that if we remotely bring it down in altitude to a point where there is sufficient oxygen and fly it remotely for 15 minutes, the pilot and passengers may regain consciousness.  At that time the control of the aircraft could be returned to the pilot or remotely landing it to save the lives of the people who are onboard.  This would have saved the lives of those aboard Helios.</p>
<p>  Billions of dollars are wasted on unnecessary airport runway expansion and insufficient data programs to reduce fatal ground incursions.  The lack of data has caused excessive verbal communication between the pilots and the controllers that is prone to errors. These ground incursions wouldn’t even occur if the flight data was shared so pilots and air traffic control had better visibility.  But because the digital data isn’t shared automatically the pilot sees only a fraction of the information necessary to prevent a crash and the same holds true for the air traffic controllers (ATCs).  Crashes such as Tenerife (583 fatalities), Comair (49 fatalities), etc. are directly caused by the lack of visibility due to not sharing the DFDR, ATC and airport runway data in real-time.  Too many crashes are listed as pilot error when they are a direct result of a lack of visibility brought on by not sharing the digital flight data/Black Box in real-time to provide the necessary situation awareness. Many of the fatal in-air crashes fall into the same category.  For example there was a crash where a plane ran out of fuel over JFK. The controller thought the pilot had more fuel left and the pilot who said his fuel was low didn’t use the correct emergency verbiage. Since the fuel supply is another black box input there is no reason why a red light, similar to the one on everyone’s car, doesn’t light up on the ATC display. The red low fuel light would reduce the controller’s work load and increase his situation awareness so that the people aboard a flight similar to the one that crashed would now live. Using the Black Box data decreases the work load of the pilot the air traffic controller as well as increases their situation awareness. By the lack of sharing the already digitized data in real-time we have egregiously curtailed the use of automation and expert systems technology for the prevention of crashes, increased the cost of flying and jeopardized our national security. The real-time use and sharing of the DFDR data to prevent crashes is more important then its present post mortem autopsy mode of operation.</p>
<p>    The already digitized data used in real-time allows the use of automated expert systems to check many of an aircraft’s sensors prior to, and during, a flight to assure that everything is functioning correctly without having a person in the loop.  When a malfunction is detected it can automatically inform the pilot and ATC as to the best way to work a round a malfunction.  Using cross checks and correlation most of the sensors can be checked and work a round’s provided to the flight deck crew for safe transportation.  It will also automatically notify the ground operational center of expected malfunctions and the safest work a round’s using a history file that should be followed. By so doing, the pilot’s work load will be reduced and his performance enhanced.</p>
<p>   While pinpointing specific causes of a crash via the autopsy mode has merit it doesn’t address the broad generic systemic cause of most crashes namely not sharing the already digitized Black Box data in real-time for crash prevention.  Piloting errors and mechanical failures will always occur but that is not a sufficient reason for the passengers to die. The fundamental reason for too many of the crashes is because the Black Box data has been denied from being utilized in real-time by the aviation industry out of fear for liability.  We have operated commercial aviation in a dark age’s methodology.  The aviation industry even fought against Black Boxes for many years.  The Black Box technology came out of Australia. It was years and many fatal crashes later when it was embraced by the US and European aviation industry.  Even when the US aviation industry embraced Black Box technology they severely limited the number of points that were allowed to be monitored.  The net result we had recurring crashes such as the horrific USAIR, Flight 427, Aliquippa PA crash, in which my friend David Garber died, that was eventually solved by using British QAR (Quick Access Recorder) data.  QARs weren’t utilized by US carrier aircraft.  We must eliminate this liability fear of the airlines and pilots associations and enter into a new age of aviation enlightenment by utilizing the black box data in real-time to prevent crashes.  The Black Box data should not be suppressed under the cover of industry private and parsed out begrudgingly.  The Black Box data belongs to the public since it is necessary for their safety. </p>
<p>   The Air France flight 447 crash is just the latest example of horrific crashes that possibly could have been prevented or saved lives. Using the Black Box data safely stored on the ground we surely would be able to minimize the anguish of the passenger’s families and recurring crashes. Ground storage eliminates the cost, time and risks associated with recorder recovery.   The flight data used in real-time: reduces the cost of flying; prevents recurring fatal crashes; prevents a host of fatal crashes that aren’t directly related to Air France Flight 447, and keeps nations safe and secure.  For the good of nation and its citizens, not only the flying public, we must utilize the Black Box data in real time.</p>
<p>Sy Levine</p>
<p><a href="mailto:sylevine1@sbcglobal.net">sylevine1@sbcglobal.net</a></p>
<p>(310) 559-2965</p>
<p><a href="mailto:levines@wlac.edu">levines@wlac.edu</a><br />
<a href="http://www.safelander.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.safelander.com</a><br />
Remote Aircraft Flight Recorder and Advisory System (RAFT) patent #5,890,079, 3/30/1999</p>
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		<title>By: mgiles</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Taras. I understand your concerns and do agree we must be vigilant. I am not so pessimistic as you however and I do think that for all sorts of reasons the investigation will be very complete. In the long run Airbus have too much to lose if they fudge this one.
Best Regards
Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Taras. I understand your concerns and do agree we must be vigilant. I am not so pessimistic as you however and I do think that for all sorts of reasons the investigation will be very complete. In the long run Airbus have too much to lose if they fudge this one.<br />
Best Regards<br />
Michael</p>
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		<title>By: Taras</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tail of Airbus A330 made out of composite material like plastic. It is not durable as aluminum, simple crack may cause it to broke off in harsh turbulence. It happen once before in New York. Air France try to hide it now, they occupy all families of victims with their lawyers ( www.airfrance447truth.com ), families will get 10% of what they should to get or even less, and no investigation will be made other then Air France ones. It&#039;s sad that other people now in great danger of flying those airplanes from Airbus. Airbus French based company, probably owned by same people as Air France. Euros rules, isn&#039;t they? How many more people have to die?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tail of Airbus A330 made out of composite material like plastic. It is not durable as aluminum, simple crack may cause it to broke off in harsh turbulence. It happen once before in New York. Air France try to hide it now, they occupy all families of victims with their lawyers ( <a href="http://www.airfrance447truth.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.airfrance447truth.com</a> ), families will get 10% of what they should to get or even less, and no investigation will be made other then Air France ones. It&#8217;s sad that other people now in great danger of flying those airplanes from Airbus. Airbus French based company, probably owned by same people as Air France. Euros rules, isn&#8217;t they? How many more people have to die?</p>
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